Sunday, September 26, 2004


A very incorrect reader went to a greenie/antiwar meeting in Birmingham (U.K.) a couple of days ago and upset the good people there by circulating the historical truth about Islam. He was given short shrift but seems to have upset the meeting to some extent. The luminaries speaking at the meeting were Messrs. Benn, Monbiot, Rees & Yaqoob. Below is a message he circulated to the Green/Left group concerned afterwards

"If Holocaust denial is a crime, how much more immensely greater a crime is Jihad denial? Sad to have to say this but the anti-war meeting reminded of that saying "All that is needed for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." And indeed four good(?) men (incl one woman) on the platform did do that nothing, along with a load of people in the audience.

A person handing out an alternative soundly-argued viewpoint was suppressed by force and threatened. The speakers made no attempt to respond to his points, other than to pretend they had not been made. And not the slightest attempt was made to discuss the challenging claims. Indeed so desperate was the need to avoid actually debating, or actually allowing critical thinking to take place, that they had to accidentally "forget" to have the normal session of questions from the floor.

I was even told a bizarre new conception of democracy consisting of the (supposed) right to not discuss or defend the views one expresses from a platform. In my book of ethics, you have no right to make assertions without a willingness to also hear and respond to those who challenge them. And certainly not while alternative perspectives are being actively suppressed in the same room.

The intellectual bankruptcy of the meeting organisers and presenters was clearly on display. I also note that Mr Benn made an extremely and seriously inaccurate claim about Christianity (extremely offensive etc so he should be chucked out and ostracised???), namely the assertion that burning at the stake is/was endorsed by Christianity. It's sad to see such enormous ignorance in a man so famous and privileged.

The Christian texts are the Gospels (the old testament is merely the Jews' history book). They preach a totally unambigious message of loving everyone including those who kill one. You really should be ashamed, Tony, and apologise for that enormous offense to the many saints who were murdered for just telling the Christian message. When was the last time you died for expressing your views, Tony??? (Sure I appreciate you are, like me, only human.)

In summary, whoever it was that handed out those leaflets should surely have at least been granted a hearing?

P.S. Big Benn also made a different outrageous claim the other week, that the countryside is subsidised by the cities. Really? Without the work of countryside people the city-dwellers would all starve, whereas the countryside does not need the cities (they are just a parasite on the land). A UK farmer kills himself once every week from financial distress. And Benn tells us that it is they that are the parasites. Frankly he does not deserve the fuss that is made about him. He has no useful new ideas, and a very serious lack of accuracy too."

Below are some of the Koranic texts the meeting did not want to know about:

Koran 2:216: "Fighting is prescribed for you".

Koran 9:29: "Fight the unbelievers till they pay the Jizya (heavy tax on unbelievers) and are subdued."

"If they accept Islam, desist from fighting against them. . . . If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya [heavy tax on non-Muslims]. . If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them" (Sahih Muslim, book 19, no. 4294).

Koran 48:29: "Muhammad is the apostle of Allah. Those who follow him are merciful to one another, but ruthless to unbelievers"

Koran 4:34: "Men are in charge of women ... good women are obedient ... from those from whom you fear rebellion, admonish them and scourge them. Lo! Allah is ever High Exalted, Great."

The Koran also decrees it is lawful to rape women you capture in warfare: Koran 33:50: "O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives . and those whom thy right (sword) hand possesses of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee." Koran 4:24: "Married women are forbidden to you except the captives your sword hand possesses."

Indeed Mohammed himself raped women on the same day that he killed their husbands and fathers. Such is Islamic "compassion".

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